El-P Makes A Statement On The Future of Def Jux

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El-P Makes A Statement On The Future of Def Jux

El-P has answered the rumors
Editor’s Note: be sure to read the bottom of this post, where even -I-, take a moment to reflect.

STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE’S MOUTH: “From Hoopties To Hovercrafts” — by El-P

Dear Inter-web, fans, friends and JUX family,

People keep asking me what’s up with JUX. There’s been some talk, there have been some rumors. Some half true, some way off. Reports of our demise have been mildly exaggerated. Here’s what it really all boils down to:

This year, a decade after starting DEF JUX and after overseeing the releases of some incredible albums including the forthcoming release of my dear late and great friend Camu Tao’s brilliant “KING OF HEARTS” LP, I’m stepping away from my duties as artistic director for the label to concentrate on what I love most: being a producer and an artist full time. This is something I’ve been contemplating for a few years now, and can’t think of a better time or, with the eventual release of Camu’s record, a more poetic way to transition into a new direction.

This means change for JUX. Of course we’ll still have our website, we will still sell our catalog, merch and more as well as bring you news and updates on all our projects and artists. We will be releasing “KING OF HEARTS”, a DEF JUX remix compilation, a 10 year anniversary retrospective and some other goodies. But then as a traditional record label DEF JUX will effectively be put on hiatus. We are not closing, but we are changing. The process is already underway, and the last several months (for those wondering what the hell we’ve been up to) have been spent dealing with the technical aspects of wrapping up the label in it’s current form and re-imagining our collective and individual futures.

In 2000 starting a traditional record label made a lot of sense. But now, in 2010, less so and I find myself yearning for something else to put my energy into. I also see newer, smarter, more interesting things on the horizon for the way art and commerce intersect, and as an artist and an entrepreneur, I’m eager to see them unfold. The evolution of this industry is, in my opinion, exciting, inevitable and it would be nice to see the DEFINITIVE JUX brand be a part of it. In other words, maybe we can turn this hoopty in to a hovercraft.

All business aside, and regardless of what form JUX may inevitably take, my focus for the immediate future is going to be back-to-basics. The fun stuff: sitting in the studio and immersing myself in music, performing it for for my fans when the time comes and whatever (or wherever) else might be out there creatively for me. Thats how it all started and that’s how the next phase will begin. The days of me dedicating the majority of my time and energy into providing JUX with a constant stream of physical releases from multiple artists are on hold for the time being. My heart (and what little common sense I possess) is telling me to simplify my focus and it has always been my policy to listen to my heart.

Truly, DEF JUX has been amazing to be a part of. So many good people. So much fun. I feel very lucky to be friends and collaborators with people who have affected and continue to affect my life and work deeply and indelibly. Working with the likes of Amaechi Uzoigwe, Jesse Ferguson, Jason Drake, and Katy Eustis at JUX as well as allies like Kathryn Frazier (biz3), Michael Bull and Lisa Socransky-Austin (to name only a few) has been incredible. These are people who worked for generally meager wages because they loved what they did and they believed in the artists and the idea of DEF JUX. Anyone would be lucky to have worked with even one person as dedicated and passionate as all of them are. They are true champions of indie music and they (and too many others to mention here) have my gratitude and loyalty forever.

None of it would have existed, though, if not for the artists. Artists who rolled the dice on us the same way we did on them, and were there with us as we battled it all out. CAMU, MR LIF, AESOP ROCK, MURS, CAGE, ROB SONIC, HANGAR 18, CHIN CHIN, CANNIBAL OX, THE PERCEPTIONISTS, RJD2, DESPOT, SA SMASH, YAK BALLZ, CRAYZ, THE MIGHTY UNDERDOGS, DIZZEE RASCAL, DEL, P.F.A.C, ACTIVATOR, COOL CALM PETE … the list goes on. I consider them all geniuses at what they do. Every victory that they have had and will have will always feel like a victory for myself and all of us at JUX. It’s been a joy to create and even struggle with them all. It has not always been easy, but it’s almost always been fulfilling. I only hope the work we put in together helped build a path to their collective futures. They have my sincerest well wishes and genuine respect.

Lastly and most importantly are the fans… holy shit THE FANS! Our fans are no joke. I can’t tell you how humbled I am to have felt the love and respect that they have shown us all. Even when we did things they didn’t like, they stuck around. This was their label as much as ours. We answered to them, and yet they respected that we did what we loved, nothing more and nothing less. We always will. You are why we do any of this, and I’ll never be able to express how much your support means to all of us. I think I speak for all of us Jukies when I say I love making music for you and can’t wait to make more.

Until then, on behalf of everyone here at JUX and from the bottom of my heart, thank you.

Founder/Artistic Director/Recording Artist



This is def good news, esp for fans of El-P’s music. It sounds like the core (at the very least El-P) will still be making music and putting it out under his label.. but, I am still curious to see what this means for the likes of Cage and Aesop Rock when they need an advance to make a new album. Does this effectively mean that they should start looking for a record deal elsewhere? We shall see how this unfolds. El-P is a nice guy and I know he wants what’s best for his friends and JUX family, even if that means they have to become “extended family.”

So this answers a lot of questions, but I think a lot of poignant ones still remain unanswered.

My Predictions on where Cage and Aesop Rock land if they do in fact have to find a new label home:

Aesop Rock at Rhymesayers Entertainment and

wait for it…

Cage at G.O.O.D. Music??!?!?!?!?

You heard it here first… (my predictions).



I actually have a lot more to say…

There’s a reason I am drinking Red-Stripe tonight, because the first time I met and interviewed El-P, I was offered a Red Stripe. So, it was a homage.

Lol, which reminds me, I should cut the shit and take this moment to ALSO reflect.

I owe a lot to El-P. He was my first sit-down interview, and I don’t think I’ve been star-struck since. Honestly.

Def Jux is an institution. An institution doesn’t go extinct, sometimes it might have to move into the portables in the back parking lot (hyperbolically speaking), but that doesn’t mean it still isn’t pumping out rawness. In fact, that’s usually where the rawest shit occurs. Why do you think my high school sex ed classes were taught there, but I digress.

I think what makes it sad is that El-P and his staff are one of a kind, good people. That’s what makes it difficult. And that’s the nature of every facet of the world these days. Do you think I wouldn’t be drinking Natural Light, on any other night? And yes, we’re guaranteed some killer dystopic requiems from El-P in the future, but to think of that first is selfish. I have to again, just stop for a moment and thank El-P and his family for helping me jump start my website, and while my love for hip-hop has been from day one, when I got that original Naughty By Nature album, it went to the next level with Def Jux. The same way pussy is a part of Tiger Wood’s fabric, Def Jux is a part of my fabric – ‘cept that Vast Aire’s tits are real – (No Homo.)

The fine people at DJX set me up with several interviews and were always nice to me. Do you think I’d be interviewing folks like Dizzee Rascal on a tour bus without DJX being good to me?
There will be a void definitely, but we shouldn’t trip. (And I hope I am not being too Monday morning quarterback, but I am trying to keep it real, sans shtick, for once.)

If you <insert other indie hip-hop label names here>, they’re nothing compared to the fabric that was and is DJX, others are nothing. Jux has the best fans in the world, to where getting a glimpse of that by way of shrapnel fans, has been amazing to experience.

Lastly, let’s not forget, the name of the label is Definitive Juxtaposition. In the name lies all the answers. No matter what, it will Def. find its place…



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  • Prolific Memorie

    Well, as sad and confused as I was earlier today,I still find myself still just as confused on how i feel as a long time(in the beginning and still here)fan of most of the artists of Jux. No matter what, it’s about the music. And I’m sure everyone’s careers will go on, not without hickups,but still heading toward an un-fuck-with-able future.

    Lots of love and luck to everyone at Def Jux.

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  • goood fuckin post man!! I remember the first time I listin to el-p… On the company flowww.. Gawd.. Till this day I still rock that cd on my ride.. Def jux for lifeeee!!! Shabootyyy!! Good shit man!!

  • ATC

    Welp, looks like aesops gonna have to pack his shit and head on back to mush records lol

  • NYHC81

    so MU’s album is being worked on first, like it should be. What’s up with El-Producto’s next album? he resurrected his hard drive and didnt lose anything about 10 months ago. then we didn’t hear much about it…

  • This makes me so sad..The label I could always count on to introduce
    The best and truly sickest hip hop w no longer exist.

  • Ahhh Johnny- Company Flow is still on my daily rotation :)



    Translation of that for real people:

    Def Jux’s catalog will remain, artists won’t get their rights back that have released things with Jux. They will continue to get paid for sales they acrue, to the extent that they ever had. Jux will basically exist as a catalog/publishing label only. With no staff. El may or may not have sold his stake in that portion of the business. The releases he mentioned dropping are probably far enough in the pipeline that they HAD to release them. Or he’s just hell bent on releasing this Camu record and they wanted a 10 year comp. But make no bones about it,




  • NYHC81

    thanks for answering my EL-P 3rd LP question.